tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17347513.post308053579270347993..comments2023-11-05T04:03:35.548-08:00Comments on BART Musings: Elections observation and an answer about homeless riding BARTbartmusingshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16327844700926513435noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17347513.post-77594840869348629532008-02-07T13:04:00.000-08:002008-02-07T13:04:00.000-08:00why are you so concerned with what other people do...why are you so concerned with what other people do?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17347513.post-36139540038163536342008-02-06T22:59:00.000-08:002008-02-06T22:59:00.000-08:00Berkeley offers showers at Willard Swimming pool o...Berkeley offers showers at Willard Swimming pool one eve a week for homelessAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17347513.post-76612748398876267802008-02-06T15:26:00.000-08:002008-02-06T15:26:00.000-08:00What you observed is called "piggy-backing". It's...What you observed is called "piggy-backing". It's been done for years at BART, and you're right -- usually the person in front paying with their ticket doesn't even realize they have been piggy-backed. Fare evasion at BART takes many forms, and piggy-backing is just about the most blatant. I could explain other popular techniques, but I don't care to encourage them. Many fare evaders persist in getting away with it precisely because they are so obnoxious to deal with.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17347513.post-69716017423297929412008-02-06T11:35:00.000-08:002008-02-06T11:35:00.000-08:00there are showers at truckstops, where truckers ca...there are showers at truckstops, where truckers can pay a small fee to take a quick shower in a clean environment. maybe they could offer something like this in the shelters? probably not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17347513.post-54407366550096015062008-02-05T16:46:00.000-08:002008-02-05T16:46:00.000-08:00To the previous commenter: I completely agree that...To the previous commenter: I completely agree that everyone deserves to be clean and warm (and fed). However, I think there are actually lots of reasons why your idea of a shower place might not be feasible. I was a teacher, so I may be more sensitive than others about people making suggestions about how to improve things that sound great but are actually really unrealistic (Shouldn't it be easy to leave no child behind? All it takes is small classes, teachers who are not burnt out, enough materials, good health care, nutition, social and psychological support....). If it isn't possible to regulate who rides BART, how would it be possible to have a public shower area? Where would the amenities you mention come from? Who would police that area? Showers might not just draw people who needed to get clean (potential opportunities for sexual assault, drug use, etc). Okay, I've just completely induged my inner cynic - sorry about that. Again, I hear you and I agree. I just think that when someone says "all it takes is...." they should really think it through and acknowledge that the reason it hasn't been done is probably because it actually takes a lot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17347513.post-2557796550223273302008-02-05T10:30:00.000-08:002008-02-05T10:30:00.000-08:00Okay, I've often wondered if this is possible? Ha...Okay, I've often wondered if this is possible? Have a homeless "shower place". A place where a homeless person could strip down and take a shower. Then put on a robe, while his (or her) clothes are washed and dried. (or replaced). All in a secure place, where nobody can rip off their belongings. <BR/><BR/>All it takes is a space, some plumbing and appliances, and a few caretakers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com